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MOTZ’S SAMSON — AI Analysis

English Setter · Male · Color not recorded

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Overview

MOTZ’S SAMSON is a male English Setter carrying a pedigree that leans heavily toward classic foot-hunting and field-bred setter blood, with a noticeable concentration of Ghost Train, Wire, School Boy Jim, Fascia, and Sam LS Meteor influence on the sire side. The bottom side shown here is far less complete, so the strongest conclusions come from the top half of the pedigree, where proven bird-dog families and several titled dogs appear. From a breeder’s standpoint, this is the kind of pedigree that suggests range, bird sense, style on point, and enough hunting instinct to suit serious upland work, especially where a forward, animated setter is valued.

Breed background

The English Setter is one of the classic bird dogs of North America, prized for a smooth, efficient gait, natural bird-finding ability, and a temperament that can live in the house and hunt hard in the field. Good ones carry their head right, handle scent with intelligence, and cover country in a way that looks easy even when they are putting in a long day. In the field-bred families, you want a dog that stands game with style, hunts with purpose instead of waste, and still has enough brains and cooperation to stay useful to the gun. This breed has long been favored by hunters who appreciate a dog with class, nose, and endurance rather than just raw speed alone.

Pedigree story

This pedigree tells a familiar and respectable English Setter story. On top, PENNSTAR ties together RU-CH SUPER GHOST and 2X CH/R-U CH NORTHERN ANNDEE, bringing in a blend of Ghost, Northern, Wire, and Train blood. You can see repetition where it matters: WIRE appears twice in the fourth generation, SCHOOL BOY JIM and CH GHOST STAR each appear twice in the fifth, and the deeper layers show recurring names like CG CHIEFS JUSTICE, TORONADOS DELIGHT, FASCIAS NICKY, and FT CH SAM LS METEOR. That kind of repetition is rarely accidental. It usually means breeders were trying to hold onto certain field traits they trusted. The dam side available here, through MOTZ’S RARE GEM, is much less complete in the provided record, so it reads like a pedigree with a strong documented sire-line identity and a more private or less recorded maternal side.

Genetic information

Based on the visible pedigree, MOTZ’S SAMSON shows moderate linebreeding concentrated mostly through the sire’s family. The clearest duplications are WIRE in the fourth generation, SCHOOL BOY JIM and CH GHOST STAR in the fifth generation, FASCIAS NICKY in the fifth and sixth generations, CG CHIEFS JUSTICE and TORONADOS DELIGHT in the sixth generation, HIGHTONE BOOTS twice in the sixth generation, and FT CH SAM LS METEOR appearing in both fifth and sixth generation forms. Using only the ancestors provided, the estimated coefficient of inbreeding is approximately 5.47%, with the understanding that the dam side is incomplete and the true figure could be somewhat higher if additional common ancestors exist there. Genetically, that level suggests purposeful consolidation rather than extreme inbreeding. In practical terms, it often supports consistency in type, gait, hunting style, and bird sense, while still leaving room for vigor if the missing maternal side is reasonably outcrossed. No direct health-test data is supplied here, so inherited disease risk cannot be stated with certainty from pedigree alone.

Ancestor influence

The biggest ancestral fingerprints in this pedigree come from the Ghost Train branch, the Wire branch, and the old Sam LS Meteor/Fascia families. WIRE’s repeat presence suggests an effort to reinforce a certain field style and family identity. SCHOOL BOY JIM paired twice with CH GHOST STAR strengthens that same cluster and likely adds consistency in the way these dogs move, carry themselves, and hunt objectives. FT CH SAM LS METEOR is the name that catches a field man’s eye because field champion blood tied into repeated working families often means stamina, desire, and a stronger chance of useful application on wild birds. FASCIAS NICKY and the Fascia line appear as stabilizing influences in the lower pedigree and likely contribute to the breed character and field usefulness behind the more visible champion names.

Champion breakdown

There is a fair amount of title presence in the documented side of the pedigree. PENNSTAR is out of RU-CH SUPER GHOST and 2X CH/R-U CH NORTHERN ANNDEE. In the next layers appear CH STARS MISTY GHOST, CH NORTHERN ALIBI, CH GHOST TRAIN DELIGHT, CH THE CLASS TRAIN, CH GHOST STAR repeated twice, and CH GHOST TRAIN. Deeper still, FTCH SAM LS METEOR and FT CH SAM LS METEOR show up, adding meaningful field title influence rather than just bench credentials. Overall, the pedigree contains multiple champion or field-titled ancestors, with the strongest visible concentration sitting in the sire line and especially around the Ghost Train and Sam LS Meteor families.

Performance potential

If this dog took after the strongest visible pieces of his pedigree, I would expect a bird dog with good forward ambition, a classy setter look on point, and the sort of nose that lets him work objectives honestly instead of just running through country. The concentration of field-bred names suggests a dog better suited to real hunting than to being just a paper pedigree. There is reason to expect stamina for all-day upland work, likely decent range depending on training and individual expression, and a natural inclination toward game-finding. The repeated field families also hint at style and animation, with enough inherited bird sense to make a useful hunting companion on quail, grouse, woodcock, or prairie birds. Because the dam side is poorly documented here, I would stop short of promising extreme range or trial-dog independence, but the pedigree absolutely points toward practical hunting ability.

Key insights

The strongest insight is that MOTZ’S SAMSON appears built on an intentional concentration of proven setter families rather than random names. The sire side has enough repetition to suggest a breeder was trying to lock in traits like bird sense, style, and field dependability. Another important point is that the champion content is meaningful because it includes field influence, not just ornamental titles. For a hunter researching this dog, the pedigree reads more like a gun-dog pedigree than a purely show-bred one. The missing depth on the dam side limits certainty, but what is visible supports the idea of a practical English Setter with useful instincts and family consistency.

Notable relatives

No fully documented list of famous littermates, offspring, brothers, or sisters was supplied in the pedigree data provided. Notable close relatives visible here include sire PENNSTAR, grandsire RU-CH SUPER GHOST, granddam 2X CH/R-U CH NORTHERN ANNDEE, and influential ancestors such as CH NORTHERN ALIBI, CH GHOST TRAIN DELIGHT, CH GHOST TRAIN, CH GHOST STAR, FASCIAS NICKY, and FT CH SAM LS METEOR. Without broader registry or production records, confirmed famous offspring or siblings for MOTZ’S SAMSON cannot be stated with confidence.

Outcross discussion

Given the visible concentration of Ghost, Wire, Fascia, School Boy Jim, and Sam LS Meteor blood, a sensible outcross would usually come from a strong, health-tested English Setter line that is field-proven but less saturated with those same ancestors. In breeding terms, that often means looking for a mate from a different branch of established field setters that still preserves nose, application, and biddability. The goal would be to keep the hunting instinct and style while widening the gene pool, especially if the full maternal background of this dog already shares hidden common ancestors. A good outcross for this sort of pedigree would be a complementary field setter line known for cooperation, sound structure, and wild-bird sense rather than another tightly linebred duplicate of the same Ghost-Wire cluster.

Breeding insights

From a breeder’s angle, MOTZ’S SAMSON looks like the kind of dog you would use to preserve old-fashioned field setter qualities if he himself proved them in the field. The pedigree suggests enough linebreeding to offer predictability, which is valuable when you are breeding for point, nose, pattern, and hunting sense. I would be cautious about doubling down too tightly on the same repeated ancestors unless the bitch brought genuine genetic diversity, proven health, and strengths where he might need them. If this dog showed the expected style and bird work, he would likely fit best over females with sound feet, strong hips and shoulders, good trainability, and a little extra composure, especially if they came from less-related but equally serious hunting stock.

Additional analysis

MOTZ’S SAMSON is a male English Setter bred from PENNSTAR and MOTZ’S RARE GEM, and his pedigree carries the look of a real hunting dog’s background. The strongest side of the paper is up top, where names like RU-CH SUPER GHOST, 2X CH/R-U CH NORTHERN ANNDEE, CH NORTHERN ALIBI, CH GHOST TRAIN DELIGHT, CH GHOST TRAIN, CH GHOST STAR, FASCIAS NICKY, and FT CH SAM LS METEOR give this dog a solid dose of established field setter blood. There is enough repeated influence in the pedigree to suggest deliberate linebreeding, with an estimated coefficient of inbreeding around 5.47% from the documented ancestors, pointing toward consistency without looking overly tight on paper. For hunters studying English Setter pedigrees, this is the kind of breeding that hints at a forward dog with style on point, honest bird sense, and the stamina to put in a long day. The Ghost Train and Wire influences stand out, and the deeper Sam LS Meteor and Fascia blood adds the sort of working heritage many upland men still like to see when they are buying a young dog or planning a cross. While the maternal side in the supplied record is incomplete, the visible pedigree suggests a practical field-bred English Setter with the potential for useful range, nose, and natural game-finding ability. As a breed, the English Setter remains one of the finest choices for the hunter who wants beauty without sacrificing usefulness. A good one hunts with rhythm, carries himself like he belongs in bird country, and has the brains to stay connected while still hunting boldly. MOTZ’S SAMSON’s lineage fits that picture well. If the dog himself matched what the pedigree suggests, he would be the sort that catches your eye in the field and earns respect by the end of the day.

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