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ENGLISH SETTER SMOKE RISE BUCK PUPPIES - 1432411000 — AI Analysis
English Setter · Sex not recorded · Color not recorded
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Overview
This female English Setter sits on a pedigree that blends proven foot-hunting setter blood with a heavy concentration of Blackwatch, Tekoa, Grouse Ridge, Smoke Rise, Long Gone, and Stokely influences. On the top side, BLACKWATCH COMMANDER doubles up on 5X CH PENNSTAR and BLACKWATCH FIRST CLASS, giving the pedigree a tight linebred feel through a family already stamped with bird sense, class on the ground, and field-trial quality. On the bottom side, BLACKWATCH SISSY brings in CH SMOKE RISE BUCK, CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY, TERHAARS BRAIR, and the Long Gone/Stokely branch, which adds reach, style, and hard-driving field character. Taken as a whole, this is the kind of pedigree a hunter notices because it is not random. It is built around recognizable setter families that have long been associated with bird-finding instinct, forward race, and enough handle to stay useful.
Breed background
The English Setter is one of the classic bird dogs for a reason. A good setter carries itself with reach and grace, covers country with an easy, efficient gait, and still has the nose and judgment to sort out running birds when conditions get tough. In the field they are prized for style on point, a soft mouth, natural backing tendency, and a temperament that usually makes them pleasant kennel dogs as well as hunting companions. The better field-bred English Setters are neither clumsy nor mechanical. They hunt with rhythm, float across objectives, and can be as effective in wild bird coverts as they are in horseback or walking stakes, depending on the family behind them. This pedigree leans toward the field side of the breed, where stamina, nose, and application matter every bit as much as looks.
Pedigree story
This pedigree reads like a deliberate effort to stack prepotent setter families instead of just chasing a single fashionable name. BLACKWATCH COMMANDER is built on a repeated PENNSTAR and BLACKWATCH FIRST CLASS pattern, and that gives the sire side a concentrated family identity. Behind that are CH SEE JOHNNY RUN, KILLION DIAMOND KATE, HOF CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE, CH CROCKETTS NEW HORIZON, and 8X CH HAMILTONS BLUE DIAMOND, all names that suggest a strong foundation of field quality and class.
The dam side opens the door wider. BLACKWATCH SISSY brings in CH SMOKE RISE BUCK and TERHAARS BRAIR, and behind them you find CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY, SMOKE RISE DIXIE, 2X CH LONG GONE GEORGE, CH GROUSE RIDGE MAXIMA, RU-CH STOKELYS DIABLO ACE, and 8X CH/4X RU CH LONG GONE AGNES. That is the kind of bottom side that often adds range, animation, and a competitive edge. There is enough linebreeding here to suggest predictability, but enough variation through the Smoke Rise, Grouse Ridge, Long Gone, and Stokely branches to keep the pedigree from becoming one-dimensional.
Genetic information
Based on the supplied six-generation pedigree, this female appears moderately linebred rather than loosely outcrossed. The most visible repeated ancestor is HOF CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE, who appears multiple times through both direct and repeated branches on the sire side, while CH SEE JOHNNY RUN, CH BOBBY JOE, CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY, CH SMOKE RISE BUCK, 5X CH PENNSTAR, and BLACKWATCH FIRST CLASS also recur in ways that tighten the family pattern. A practical estimate of the coefficient of inbreeding from the visible pedigree is in the moderate range, approximately 8% to 12%, with a reasonable working midpoint around 10%. That is not extreme for a purpose-bred field setter pedigree and usually reflects an attempt to fix type, gait, mental style, and bird-dog instincts rather than simple close inbreeding.
From a breeder's standpoint, the genetic picture suggests concentration of field-trial and hunting genetics tied to nose, pointing instinct, forward patterning, and endurance. The risk with this kind of pedigree is the same risk seen in many linebred working dogs: when the cross hits, it can be very uniform and very good, but when faults appear they may also be easier to reproduce. Because no health testing data is provided here, no claims should be made about inherited disease status. Still, the pedigree itself points toward a dog likely to inherit strong prey drive, natural application, and enough inherited style to appeal to both hunters and trial-minded buyers.
Ancestor influence
The strongest ancestral pull in this pedigree comes from the Tekoa branch on the upper side and the Grouse Ridge/Smoke Rise/Long Gone-Stokely branch on the lower side. HOF CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE shows up often enough to matter in a real way, and when a dog like that repeats, you usually see it in the offspring through intensity, ground application, and consistency of bird work. CH SEE JOHNNY RUN also appears repeatedly and looks to be part of the glue that ties the top side together. That sort of repetition often steadies type and preserves the style a breeder was after.
On the bottom side, CH SMOKE RISE BUCK and CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY bring proven field blood with a reputation for bird dog character. The Long Gone and Stokely names tend to signal competitive fire, running gear, and eye appeal in motion. CH BOBBY JOE also shows more than once and adds another layer of influence tied to field quality. Taken together, the ancestry suggests a setter that should not lack want-to. If she comes true to the paper, she ought to show independence, plenty of nose, and a natural sense for objectives.
Champion breakdown
This pedigree is rich in titled dogs. Visible champions and notable titled ancestors include 5X CH PENNSTAR, CH SEE JOHNNY RUN, HOF CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE, CH CROCKETTS NEW HORIZON, 8X CH HAMILTONS BLUE DIAMOND, 9XCH/FTHF HICKS RISING SUN, CH TYONEON BARNEY, HOF 11X CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE, CH BOBBY JOE, CH SMOKE RISE BUCK, CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY, 2X CH LONG GONE GEORGE, CH GROUSE RIDGE MAXIMA, RU-CH STOKELYS DIABLO ACE, 5XCH GROUSE RIDGE REROY, 8X CH/4X RU CH LONG GONE AGNES, CH LONG GONE STOKELY, CH/RUCH LONG GONE STOKELY, 5X CH/3X RUNNER UP CH FIRST RATE, 3X CH STOKELYS DIABLO GINGER, and CH PINNACLE. There are also several Hall of Fame references, especially through Tekoa blood. Even allowing for repeated appearances of the same dogs, the pedigree contains a high density of field-recognized stock, which is usually a good sign for inherited ability and consistency.
Performance potential
If this female takes after the paper, her performance potential should suit the hunter who likes an athletic English Setter with reach, nose, and enough bottom to stay effective over a long day. The Blackwatch and Pennstar concentration on top suggests a dog that may be more predictable in pattern and temperament than a wide-open outcross. The Smoke Rise, Grouse Ridge, Long Gone, and Stokely blood underneath can add animation, style, and forward race. In plain hunting terms, that often means a dog that wants to get to the front, hunts with purpose, and has the instinct to pin birds instead of just wandering through cover.
I would expect her best potential to be as a strong wild-bird gun dog with the ability to fit into walking trials or hunt tests if developed correctly. She should have the genetic makeup for good stamina, natural point, and a sensible amount of class. Depending on how the individual matures, range could run from medium-forward to big enough for open country. The pedigree suggests more field edge than house-pet softness, though many English Setters from this kind of breeding still live well in the home if given enough work.
Key insights
This is a pedigree with a real field identity, not a scattered collection of names. The sire side is clearly linebred around Blackwatch, Pennstar, Tekoa, and See Johnny Run blood, which should help stamp consistent type. The dam side brings broader competitive blood through Smoke Rise, Grouse Ridge, Long Gone, and Stokely, and that is often where extra drive and style come from.
The estimated COI being around 10% suggests a breeder was trying to hold on to recognizable traits rather than start from scratch. That can be a good thing if you value predictability in a breeding program. The strongest practical takeaway is that this female is likely bred to be a real bird dog first, with enough champion influence behind her to make her appealing to hunters who care about performance pedigree. Buyers looking for a soft, slow, short-range dog may want something else. Buyers wanting a classy, athletic setter with field blood should find this pedigree interesting.
Notable relatives
No verified list of littermates or offspring is provided in the pedigree data, so famous brothers, sisters, and offspring cannot be confirmed from this record alone. What can be said is that she is closely tied to notable dogs such as BLACKWATCH COMMANDER, BLACKWATCH SISSY, CH SMOKE RISE BUCK, CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY, CH SEE JOHNNY RUN, HOF CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE, 5X CH PENNSTAR, and RU-CH STOKELYS DIABLO ACE. Those names give her strong kinship to established field setter families with wide recognition among hunters and trial followers.
Outcross discussion
Given the concentration of Blackwatch, Tekoa, Pennstar, Grouse Ridge, Smoke Rise, Long Gone, and Stokely blood, a good outcross would likely come from a proven English Setter family that offers strong bird sense and cooperation without doubling too heavily on these same ancestors. In practical breeding terms, an outcross to a sound hunting setter from a distinct Ryman-influenced line would soften the edge and potentially add biddability and close-working temperament, while an outcross to a modern all-age or horseback field line with less Tekoa/Long Gone concentration could preserve range and style while widening the gene pool. The best outcross would depend on whether the goal is to reinforce wild-bird gun dog qualities, add range, improve temperament, or reduce pedigree concentration.
Breeding insights
From a breeder's chair, this female looks most useful if paired to a male that complements rather than mirrors her. Because her pedigree already carries a fair amount of linebreeding and repeated field-trial blood, I would avoid stacking more of the same close-up Blackwatch/Tekoa/See Johnny Run combinations unless the goal is very deliberate consolidation. A sensible match would be a male with verified health clearances, strong wild-bird credentials, and a touch more natural handle if her individual temperament proves independent. If she shows exceptional nose and race but needs more composure, breed to a steady, intelligent dog with proven cooperation. If she turns out balanced and classy, she could handle a stronger shooting-dog or all-age male and still produce desirable hunting prospects. The main rule here is to breed to the individual, but the pedigree says she should be capable of producing serious field-bred setter pups if matched with care.
Additional analysis
ENGLISH SETTER SMOKE RISE BUCK PUPPIES - 1432411000 is a field-bred female English Setter carrying the kind of pedigree that gets a hunter's attention. She is sired by BLACKWATCH COMMANDER and out of BLACKWATCH SISSY, blending a concentrated Blackwatch and Pennstar top side with a deep bottom side packed with Smoke Rise, Grouse Ridge, Long Gone, Stokely, and Tekoa blood. This is not a paper built by accident. It is the sort of breeding meant to preserve nose, style on point, endurance, and the forward hunting pattern that serious bird dog folks appreciate.
The upper side of her pedigree leans heavily on 5X CH PENNSTAR, BLACKWATCH FIRST CLASS, CH SEE JOHNNY RUN, and HOF CH TEKOA MOUNTAIN SUNRISE. That kind of repetition usually means a breeder was trying to lock in type and field character. The lower side opens up with CH SMOKE RISE BUCK, CH GROUSE RIDGE LEROY, TERHAARS BRAIR, 2X CH LONG GONE GEORGE, CH GROUSE RIDGE MAXIMA, and RU-CH STOKELYS DIABLO ACE. Those names bring old setter grit, class, and proven field quality. There is enough champion influence here to suggest real inherited ability, and enough family consistency to make the pedigree useful to someone thinking beyond one hunting season.
For the buyer looking at performance potential, this female reads like a dog that should have bird drive, stamina, and a naturally forward way of going. I would expect the best of this pedigree to show in a hunting setter that can cover ground efficiently, handle wild birds honestly, and still show the smooth style that makes English Setters so enjoyable to watch. The estimated coefficient of inbreeding falls in a moderate range, around 10%, which fits a linebred field pedigree designed for predictability rather than chance. For hunters, breeders, and anyone researching English Setter bloodlines, this is a pedigree with substance, history, and enough proven names behind it to deserve a serious look.